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Monday, September 19, 2011

Exchange with Wesley PHD Nation of Islam Scholar who claims Allah came in the person of F. Muhammad in Detroit

This is by no way anything unfamiliar for me as I have spend most of my life debating Christians who claim that God became man and walked on earth, went to bed, ate food, went to the washroom and relieved himself etc.  In the case of Christianity it's a WHITE God, a European God, sometimes even resembling a Californian Surfer dude who let his hair grow.  In the case of NOI a BLACK God, so they claim even though it is quite apparent from the pictures of F. Muhammad that he was no way near black.  A BLACK God they say who walked in Detroit, called for the resurrection (not physical as they don't believe in a physical resurrection) a mental resurrection.  Wesley is a PHD who spends his time writing books and lecturing about topics such as the skin color of prophets, using his academic research to win followers slowly to his theology.  What theology you say?  The dogmatic theology that says that God's sutra or his cover his body to contain his light his brightness is a black man.  In other simple words God is or was a black man depending how you look at it (something which we will discuss later).
I have a certain history with this person even though we never engaged in a formal discussion.  Recently he tagged me in two notes that dealt with topics concerning skin color of prophets, to which I replied trying to help the readers realize that such a thing is not a theological branch of Islam.  It can be called a historic truth, political correctness or what have you but not something that the Muslims should spend their lives around, indulge in and raise a nationalistic movement based on a theology of paganism and shirk.  Scholars unanimously agree that NOI are not Muslims and you will be able to see why as it does not take a Mufti to realize how far they have strayed from the Quran and the Sunnah.
Before I start I want to reproduce my initial comment that I believe is very important so that I avoid being labeled as a WHITE SUPREMACIST AS WESLLY TRIED TO DO.  HE CLAIMED THAT I LIKE OTHER WHITE CONVERTS TO ISLAM ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THE DEEN AND WE ARE BEING RACIST AND HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PROPHET MUHAMAMD PBUH BEING BLACK.

One of my initial posts was that prophet Muhammad was not BLACK, but was brown like most Arabs of the Arabian Peninsula were and still are today.  The Shamail of the prophet are recorded in many ahadith.  I am white and I love the prophet and never claimed that he was WHITE LIKE ME.  We will look at the narrations and the descriptions SOON INSH ALLAH, but LET ME SAY THIS.  EVEN IF HE WOULD BE BLACK OR CHINESE AS ONE OF THE READERS PUT IT, I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, but the issue comes in that it is not historically correct, and THAT WESLEY AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM out of reactionary racism have tried to gain converts using this point of skin color and tried to lure people into SHIRK.  THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM.

SO HERE I HAVE AND WILL REPRODUCE THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN WESLEY AND MYSLEF FOR ALL TO SEE.
Please visit this POST to see all the updated comments.


2 comments:

Jibreelk said...

Well no exchange for now as I did not save the comments in time and this person blocked me or so it seems. Let's see what happens.

Anonymous said...

when one wants to prove the existence of almighty God does he start of by saying that one day god created flesh and incarnated into it and then applied unto himself roman wrath and then rewarded himself with his created reward? or does one talk about atoms and the intelligence in the universe?

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